22 October 2015

Vogue 2921: Wadder

I've been searching for some pants with back princess seams similar to Vogue 9032.  Why not use Vogue 9032 you say?  Because angled side pockets have NEVER looked good on my hips.  Ever - not even 20 years and 50 pounds ago.
Vogue 9032

So when I happened upon OOP Vogue 2921 at the 2015 MPB Day pattern swap, I was elated!  My butt-princess seam pant pattern search was over.

Vogue 2921

Except no.  Big no. The cut of these pants is WAAAAAY too wide or something.  Only now after having looked at the line drawings do I realize that the cut is completely different.  V9032 appears to hug the hips more gracefully and taper at the hem.  The legs on V2921 are like stovepipes.

I started with a size 16 and have removed a considerable amount of width from the inseam, outseam, and princess seam.  The result?  Not good.



The photos are overexposed to show the detail/twist/WTFery.

I'm sure I cut everything on grain, so the twist that's happening from the knee down is probably from taking out so much width.  I don't think starting with a smaller size will help either.

This is actually my third time attempting this pattern.  The first time was a muslin that looked promising.  For the second attempt, I used rayon-poly-lycra suiting and it was a MESS.  The current pair is made from a lightweight wool suiting that I picked up from my recent splurge at my local non-profit art store (gotta blog about this latest haul!).

I could take all of the extra stitching out to retain the original width.  But then it looks like I'm all pants and nothing else.

I wonder if I can somehow trace the front of 2921 onto the front of 9032.  I'm hesitant to use the complete front of 2921 because of the leg shaping.  Hmm...

Any thoughts?  I could cut the legs off at the knee and make knickers.  But then I know I would never wear them! =)

L

 

24 comments:

  1. Nooooo!!! Although WTFery was the highlight of my day!

    I have often thought of trying to redraft the front of that pattern but then I realize I have to change the pocket facing, pocket bag and inset (or whatever the individual pieces are called) too and I get all, eh, never mind. So I'll be stalking the comments for replies on that one.

    The back looks good through the butt. But yeah, one of the things I love about 9032 is the shaping through the leg. It is very nice.

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    1. Yeah, I hear you. This pattern actually has a front lining too! I wasn't sure how I'd like it, but it seems to not get in the way. I know I don't want to fool with that, so I have to think of something else.

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  2. That's a bummer. I need to travel this road again soon to get a great fitting pair of slacks. I just have to prepare myself for about 5-7 muslins. Yikes!

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    1. My legs are so bizarre. =) I have full hips and quads, but slim hamstrings. I always get too much fullness in the back and wrinkles in the front. I'm with you on the multiple muslins!

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  3. Check out Colette Patterns pants adjustments... hope it helps.

    https://blog.colettehq.com/tutorials/the-colette-patterns-pants-fitting-cheatsheet

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    1. Ah yes, I forgot about the Colette tutorials. Thanks for the reminder!

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  4. Hi have you tried altering the design of the pocket front on V9032. It wouldn't be too difficult and probably quicker in the long run. I need trousers not looking forward to mastering the fit though☺

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    1. I haven't tried that; I was a little intimidated by getting the pocket to be the shape I want. I think you're right, though. I'll see if I can somehow trace the pocket style of 2921 onto 9032.

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  5. Sorry L. Making pants that fit us can be a daunting task. But I know you can do it cause you've done it before.

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    1. Thanks Faye! I have a pants pattern that fits well, Simplicity 2860. I should probably stick with that. =)

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  6. For the one you already made, I'd try to pin the sides to see if a tapered leg would work for it.

    Otherwise, I'd make a frankenpattern, using the top part of the V2921 and adjusting the bottom leg part to be like that of V9032? That way, yo don't need to worry about changing the pocket and instead change the leg?

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    1. Yes, this is definitely a good idea. I'll lay the patterns together and see if I can meld the styles together. Thank you!

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  7. Sorry for your wadder. We've all been there! This is my suggestion, if V9032 fits you well use it and either eliminate the pockets altogether, or transplant the front zip and pocket area from the other pattern, but stay to the overall silhouette of 9032. The time and effort will be worth it.

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    1. Well duh, why didn't I think of that! I can just eliminate the pockets. Hmm...gotta think about what changes to make.

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  8. Ouch. What a right pain in the a (pardon the pun). There seem to be pouches at the side of your hips -a nd I know you are straight through there, like me - lots of pants seem to have these pouches. I'm with Faye. But some patterns are not worth bothering with. 9032 when I made a muslin up did not work for me.

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    1. Haha. Puns are good. =) I like the idea of 9032, but the pockets kill it for me. There are some good ideas here that I'll have to try.

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  9. If you like everything but the slant pockets, you could always morph those into the style of the 2921 pockets. Alternatively, if what you don't like about slant pockets is the pocket gape, have you tried playing around with stabilizing them, tummy stays, etc? You could even add a zipper, and it would probably look pretty cool.

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    1. I tried darting out the fullness, but the pocket still gaped. I think this style combined with my hips and tummy pouch will always produce gaping. A zippered pocket sounds cool, but I think I would still have the same problem. I will try to morph the pocket style of 2921 with 9032.

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  10. I agree with you about the angled pockets! I've not cared for hem to much either because of the way they pull out or pucker sometimes if you have a little bit of a tummy. However, when it comes to the fit of your pants, I agree with Nakisha (SewCraftyChemist), they look and fit really nice! They just seem a little to large for you. How about taking them in a little in the side seams, starting from the bottom of the pocket to the hem? You could start with about 1/2" under the pocket, to approximately 1" by the time you get to the hemline. This worked for me when I had the problem you're refering to. (unless I'm wayyyy of base in what you're asking, LOL!) Anyway, I do like them and don't think it's a wadder.

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    1. Yes, this is it! I think one has to have a flat lower abdomen for the pockets to sit well and I definitely don't have that!

      I've taken quite a bit of width out of all of the seams - so much so that I've thrown the pants off grain. I don't know if this pair can be saved. Since they're almost done, what I'll probably do is finish the hem and closure and give them away.

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  11. I feel your pain sister. I am just...just!...getting some good results from V2948. Not only but also...I've made a pattern WITHOUT the centre seams. Ha!
    I too enjoyed the WTFery. ;)

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  12. Ooo...I never noticed V2948. How do you like the fit?

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  13. So I'm wearing V9032 right now. My third pair actually. I hate pleats on my pants so I overlaid view C on top of view B to reshape so that I would have the leg shape of view B. I then redrafted to omit the pockets. These are the best pants fitting pants I have made yet. So I have the waist style of View C with the legs of View B and no slant pockets.

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    1. I did exactly what you and others suggested and think I have a winner! I think this is a good pattern, sans slant pockets.

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